Sunday, 6 October 2013

Barak Obama Hussein II born in Kenya in 1961

This is the birth certificate of Barak Obama Hussein II, President of the United States of America, born in Kenya on August 4th, 1961.

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    1. his mother is America so that make him America. To tell you the truth so is his fath
      er because he married and America

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    2. Put him in jail for what????

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    3. please do.....hang him there too.......

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    4. He was born in kenya but may expire in a US Prison

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    5. Why? So what if this shows that a "Barak Obama" was born on this day in Kenya! How many others babies were born in the world on this day? How many in Africa that were called Barak. It is not an uncommon name in that area at that time.

      Give it a rest.....not sure what you want to prove.

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    6. Lisa, I'm not buying that this is real simply because I saw it on the interwebs. However, the veracity of your argument is laughable as well. You are correct there could be multiple Barack Hussein Obamas born on that day. But how many of them were also born to an American woman from Wichita, KS who resided at the time, in Honolulu?

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    7. Fred Meadows6 October 2013 15:05
      his mother is America so that make him America. To tell you the truth so is his fath
      er because he married and America Not true Fred Doesn't matter if one or both parents are american, french, spanish etc.. If that child is born in another country then that child is legally that country's nationality. Also just because you marry an american that does not make you an american. He would still have to take a citizenship test and pass it to become an American. All the marriage does is allow him to stay in OUR country without a valid visa/work/school permit.

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    8. LisaWhite, have you ever read the requirements of being the President of the Untied States of America? It says you have to be BORN IN AMERICA. So no, not so what. He is a fraud, period!

      That being said, I am not sure there is much we can to about it; just have to deal with the little Dictator till he is gone

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    9. He doesn't get a pass.......

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    10. Except that it also gives the names of his parents.. lol

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    11. And you have to be a natural born U.S. citizen or you are ineligible to hold presidential office in America. And the U.S. doesn't even extend dual citizenship to individuals born in Kenya anyways, so his mother being American doesn't matter.

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    12. To all of the liberal idiots that say obozo has a Hawaii birth certificate had better read this, Your master has made a fool out of all of you idiots lol lol
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-official-now-swears-no-obama-birth-certificate/

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    13. The point is, even though his mother was American and born in America, Obama is American, however, the law clearly states that to be QUALIFIED to run for President, you must be BORN in America, not just your parents!!!

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    14. To Fred Meadows
      ... the rule isn't that you have to be an american to be president it is that you have to have been born on AMERICAN SOIL...

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    15. To be president you have to be a natural born citizen, you can only be a natural born citizen if you are born in the USA or on US soil in another country such as a military base.

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    16. I am sure there were a bunch others that were born that day, with exact same parents as the pres. And it does not matter that his mother is American. Stop being stupid and learn. To be President of the US you are suppose to be born in America making you Natural born American. I don't know whether this is fake or not, but not hard to prove. Why do u think the footprint is there. Examine that and we will have the answer.

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    17. LisaWhite, you do realize you have to be born on American soil to be the president of the U.S. right?

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    18. @ Fred Meadows It doesn't matter if his parents were citizens or not. If he wasn't born on US Soil then he is not a naturalized citizen. And in Kenya unless it was a US Military Base then there is no way he is legally able to be president. Therefore can be imprisoned on falsifying records.

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    19. Really Lisa? To the same mother and father as his. Put the koolaid down girl. Start thinking. The US citizens cant stand his sorry self, he and moochelle's lavish vacations, their increasing the deficit at record numbers, and their muslim-communist plans for the US...Their FEMA concentration camps are meant for you two hon. Just because you get in bed with the devil doesn't protect you from hell.

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    20. Really Lisa? Do you think his same mother and father had two of him? That koolaid has dulled your senses.

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    21. Fred Meadows and LisaWhite, while I'm just as skeptical of this Kenya document as I am of the photoshop travesty that was passed off as the Hawaiian birth certificate, I'm surprised that you don't understand why this would be important. In order to be President of the United States, you must be born *in* the United States (a natural born citizen). Being a citizen or being born to a parent who is a citizen is not sufficient. Passing yourself off as a natural born citizen in order to obtain the office of President would be considered treason. That's why it matters. But I honestly don't think anybody is going to be able to prove solidly one way or the other where Obama was born.

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    22. Re: "the photoshop travesty that was passed off as the Hawaiian birth certificate..."

      Only birther sites claim that, and they are not believed by such leading conservatives as Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review. Or for that matter by Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan and John McCain, or by Michelle Bachmann, Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee.

      There are two obvious reasons. The birther "experts" have not even shown themselves to be experts, and they certainly are not fair and impartial.

      Re: "Being a citizen or being born to a parent who is a citizen is not sufficient. "

      Answer: That is another birther myth. But it is just as nutty as the "born in Kenya" myth. The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the BRITISH common law legal term Natural Born Subject, and the Natural Born part means exactly the same thing, a person born in the sovereign territory regardless of the citizenship of the parents at the time.

      NO, the term does NOT come from Vattel, who is not even mentioned in the Federalist Papers even one time, while the common law is referred to about twenty times. And John Jay, who apparently used the term Natural Born Citizen first in America, was an expert in THE COMMON LAW. So, if the had intended to use the term any differently than in the common law, duh, he would have said so---but he didn't.


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

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    23. Re: "But I honestly don't think anybody is going to be able to prove solidly one way or the other where Obama was born."

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      For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

      (1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

      (2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

      (3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

      AND, guess what---we do not even know whether Obama's mother had a passport in 1961----and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. Yet birthers would like gullible people to assume that she was one of the few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the extremely few women who traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirth, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him and that all the facts on the copy that the White House has published are EXACTLY the same as on the one that they
      sent to him are lying.

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    24. @smrstrauss> The photo image IS proof that the Fraudulent Occupier of the White House was born in Kenya. Your comments about the fraudulent birth-certificate that Obama presented to the Florida Court before his fraudulent 1st term as fraudulent President are typical of Democrat Americans who voted for the Fraudulent Occupier of our Country. The State of Florida already proved by its Federal Court that the birth-certificate that Obama's [complicitor-in-fraud] Attorney presented to them is a fraud. BTW, @smrstrauss, put the koolaid down that you're drinking...The pictured birth-certificate is real! BTW, it was during the 2012 Presidential debates that Obama challenged Mitt Romney to provide his birth-certificate...without complying with Romney's challenge that Obama provide his own first. @smrstrauss, prove that the berth-certificate in the above image is a fake and that Obama II wasn't born in Kenya...otherwise you're just full of hot air!

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    25. Re: "the State of Florida already proved by its Federal Court that the birth-certificate that Obama's [complicitor-in-fraud] Attorney presented to them is a fraud. " [and the rest of that stuff...]

      Dream on. NONE of that is true. ONLY birther "experts"---who have not shown that they are really experts, and who CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial---have claimed that Obama's birth certificate is forged. And they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review, or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Huckabee or Michelle Bachmann.

      Why not? Because those are birther "experts"---and birther sites have shown that they are willing to lie in their attempt to harm Obama. For example, they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that Obama was born in Kenya---but she never said it. They simply cut off the tape recording on their sites just before she was asked "where was he born/" She answered it by saying "in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." But they simply did not quote her. And when one of the birther sites hired an expert to determine whether Obama's BC was forged or not, and that expert said that there was no evidence that it was forged, that site simply did not quote him.

      Also, birther sites have not shown you these real experts:

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

      Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

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    26. Continuing:


      Also, birther sites have not shown you this:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

      Or this:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Nor have they shown you this:

      http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

      Birther sites have not told you that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 (want to see the INS report?) and that all but one of them came by SHIP, and that there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii. They have not told you that we do not even know that Obama's mother had a PASSPORT in 1961, nor have they told you how very few 18-year olds had passports in 1961. Yet they would like gullible people to believe that she was one of the few 18-year-olds to have a passport, and that she was one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad late in pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirth(and she could not go earlier because she was attending college). They have not told you those things, yet they would hope that gullible people believe that Obama's mother traveled ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) by ship to Kenya, delivered a child there (despite the Kenyan government saying that it never happened) traveled back to Hawaii by ship alone and somehow got the officials in Hawaii (which was BTW under a Republican governor in 1961) to issue a birth certificate for him there, or that the officials in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers are all lies or forgeries.

      Re "prove that the 'Kenyan BC' is a forgery."

      The guy who CLAIMS to have gotten it in Kenya has refused to show evidence that he ever went to Kenya. The Kenyan government says that it never happened. The Hawaii government says that Obama was born in Hawaii. The idea of Obama's mother traveling alone by ship to Kenya is LOONY. The document uses US date formats, not Kenyan date formats and it misspells some names. What else do you desire?

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    27. @smrstrauss>
      You stated above in your 1st dissertation:
      QUOTE - "Dream on. NONE of that is true. ONLY birther "experts"---who have not shown that they are really experts, and who CERTAINLY have not shown that they are fair and impartial---have claimed that Obama's birth certificate is forged. And they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review, or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Huckabee or Michelle Bachmann." - UNQUOTE.

      @smrstrauss> Not only are your 2 dissertations full of diatribe, but you obviously don't follow the internet news closely...Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Huckabee, and Michelle Bachmann are not only Conservative Republicans, but they ARE members of the so-called "birther movement"!

      @smrstrauss> I also checked the URL addresses you provided in your 2nd dissertation: And they all express and reflect, along with your 2 dissertations above, the desperation-tactics that the Liberal Democrats are using in an attempt to transform this Country into a Communist Regime.

      The original photo-image of the alleged newspaper article from your provided URL is not only conveniently cut off on its right-hand margin when I opened it in a separate tab in my browser, but the Newspaper's location heading is also conveniently cut off in the image when I opened it in a separate tab;
      INCIDENTLY, the announcement states where Obama II's PARENTS WERE LIVING [in Hawai'i] at the time and NOT where he was born. U.S. newspapers commonly charge per letter for their announcements in the classified-columns indicating that Obama II's Mother didn't have enough money to show that his birth took place in Kenya [his Father's birthplace].
      The image above displaying Obama II's true birth-certificate [direct from London and their archival records] also states in typed-print on the form, as point-in-fact, that his MOTHER'S contemporary RESIDENCE to be in Honolulu, Hawai'i. The Document-form's heading states "Mombass. British Protectorate of Kenya.".

      @smrstrauss> BTW, newspapers aren't a legal document, and hence they can't be notarized, which means they can't be used as material-evidence in a U.S. Court Case unless authorized by the District Attorney. The Document pictured above, on the other hand, IS a legal document which MUST be notarized;

      @smrstrauss, in case you overlooked it, the pictured document above does contain a Notary Public's stamp which is shown at the bottom right-hand corner of the document.

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  2. AS I said in Opinsy, Obama is a dead duck.

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  3. That is a FORGED birth certificate. Obama was not born in Kenya. Obama was born in Hawaii, as his birth certificate from Hawaii, confirmed repeatedly by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii. And it is further confirmed by the public Index Data file of Hawaii and still further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so in 1961 for births IN Hawaii).

    The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

    Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.

    Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

    And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

    “Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

    “It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

    http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

    Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

    Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

    Oh, and there is this:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …

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    1. The reason that doubt persists is because Obama refused to produce a copy of his birth certificate, as well as other documents that all candidates provide. Why would he not provide the documents? It makes it seem like he has something to hide. If he was indeed born in Hawaii, then he is doing this just for the publicity that it brings him. Any publicity is good publicity.

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    2. To be a minion or not to be..your choice.

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    3. He needed time to set it up to get all the officials on the $$$$ same page to say he was born in Hawaii

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    4. CENTCOM government paid disinfo agent TROLL↑↑↑

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    5. Not only has it been proven that his Hawaiian Birth Certificate is a forgery, but his draft registration and he in using the social security number of a man born in 1890. In fact, Obama is one big fraud!!!!

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    6. It has been proven beyond a doubt that the "birth certificate" that Barney Obumble released is a photshopped fraud. All your hot air doesn't dispell that.

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    7. Doubt persists because half of this country watches Faux News and listens to the conspiratorial/propaganda rantings of Glen Blech, Rush Limpballs, Sean Halfwit, Man Coulter, etc. If you'd stop watching/listening to bullshit, you'd stop repeating it.

      http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

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    8. smrstraus.......you will believe anything won't you.

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    9. How can you be so certain that this document, with all of the official seals, is the forged one and not the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth? I suppose you must have some insider knowledge that the rest of the world does not. Anyone with half a brain can see why everyone would want the public to believe that the Hawaiian document is indeed the real one because if people found out that Obama is not really eligible to be President and that every piece of legislation he signed unconstitutional, it would create such an upheaval that neither party could maintain control. That is so obvious to someone not blind such as yourself.

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    10. You might wan to look at the South Carolina case where Obama's attorney withdrew the birth certificate as a forgery.

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    11. He has never produced a Birth Certificate, only a "Certification of Birth" which isn't the same and can be issued many years later.

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    12. Thank you smrstrauss for speaking the voice of reason!

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    13. He provided the documents. TWICE

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    14. He didn't provide the documents because he didn't have to, just because others do, doesn't mean it's required. He also didn't provide the documents because of arguments as set forth on sites like these. The more outrageous the claims the fewer people believe them. No one believes the conspiracy theorists even when there is proof to back up the claim. There is enough truth out there to convict this administration of their crimes, but focus has to be on the truth. Stop replaying this record--What if, just what if, he came out tomorrow and admitted he was not born a US citizen, what would happen then, he's already been reelected, proving now that he didn't have the right to run is meaningless! Do you think this SCOTUS would remove him from office?! Do you think this Senate would impeach him?! Fight a fight that is winnable...get all your people together and demand that they defund or delay Obamacare, don't waste your effort on his birthplace. Stop Obamacare, get the Muslim Brotherhood out of our government, restore the Constitution and the Republic!

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    15. Oh, you mean that piece of PDF crappola that has been acknowledged as a forgery by the Obama lawyer? Sure... have some more Kool-aid and relax. Try not to think too hard. Try not to think at all if you can help it. The White House Ministry of Truth and Mockery will be along soon with a reprisal you can type into the following space..

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    16. And while you're at it, can anyone produce the court documents where Barry Soetoro had his name changed back to Barack, JR and his citizenship to Ameican? Just a couple of minor things.

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    17. @smrstrauss How is that kool aid working out for you??

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    18. so you say THIS is a forged birth certificate but yet you somehow think the "picture" they posted online is a REAL birth certificate...the only way the "picture" he posted could be any worse is if they had done it in crayon. It's a pitiful joke of a forgery...the question is WHY did they have to create a fake birth certificate. Of course we all know....except you.

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    19. And another thing, this Kenyan birth was verified by eye witnesses, in particular his grandmother who was quit positive and unflappable in her international TV interview about the subject. She was adamant about the local birth. And quite proud of it in fact. SO the paper trail now leads to Barry Soetoro being granted Indonesian citizenship and a name change. Where are the records to show his return to American citizenship and his name change? And the application to college he made? He's a lying SOB, a bastard child - his parents were not legally married as Hawaii does not recognize plural marriages. He passes himself off as African American when he is actually 50% White, 37.5% Arab (not a Black race) and 12.5% African Black and raised during his formative years outside the US. Yet he expects everyone to repeat the lie and believe it.

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    20. You can easily find expert document validators who can show you how the document Obama's people presented is a poorly constructed fake. The first person to publicly share the errors that expose a fake- more than 200 individual misalignments, mismatches, layers, etcetera were listed and shown. Eventually, three men in black suits rang his bell and told him they would do terrible things to his wife and children, and then kill them. So, he stopped.

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    21. Too many inconsistencies with his alleged Hawaii BC. The records for immigration are missing the week of his birth. Yeah, it's a coincidence. His father's race was "African", when in 1961 the official classification was "Negro". More than that, the penciled in number in the same box as his father's race, is a code for "information missing". There is a video examining the Birth Certificate in detailed, showing the inconsistencies in the resolution of the text in different fields. Abercrombie himself couldn't find the BC, then later backpedaled. A private investigation involving police that went to Kapiolani Hospital were met with hostility, including having the local police called on them! Something is afoot here. And why is THIS BC a fake and not the one Barry posted?

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    22. I'm wondering why his 'official' birth certificate on the white house website is in layers. If you download the file and open it with Photoshop, you'll see it's layered. Strange.

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    23. If Mr. Smith refuses to show his passport stamp is your proof he didn't go to Kenya then when Mr. Obama refuses to show us his passport then that must be our proof he wasn't born in Hawaii.

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    24. If your only proof that Mr. Smith is lying about the Kenya birth certificate is that he refuses to publish his passport stamp, then why can't we state that Mr. Obama's birth certificate is fake if he won't present his birth certificate for examination to the public. Keep drinking the Kool-aid.

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    25. would you like another cup of KOOLAID

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    26. Even if he was born in Kenya, his Mother is a U.S. citizen. The same way that the Mother of Ted Cruz is a U.S. citizen, Cruz was born in Canada, yet the Republican party THINKS he would make a GREAT President. PLEASE explain your reasoning why this is ok? Cruz born on foreign soil to an American Mother eligible to be President Obama born on foreign soil to an American Mother NOT ELIGIBLE?????

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    27. you should need to be born in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, wtf are Hawaii and Alaska, they're not really in touch with what's going on, way too far away, their both like different countries, Alaska part of Canada and Hawaii is part of Asia, B. Hussein OBOZO didn't even really grow up in Hawaii, but Indonesia, where he received all his radical Islamic beliefs, the guy is a fucking asshole and should be arrested for treason.

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    28. Re: " ...because Obama refused to produce a copy of his birth certificate...."

      Answer: Baloney!

      Obama showed the short form BC of Hawaii, which is the official BC of Hawaii, way back in June 2008, becoming the FIRST US presidential candidate to publish his birth certificate (McCain did not publish his, nor did George Bush or Gore or Clinton or Bush41 or Reagan, Etc.) Obama also published his long form BC, and---guess what--the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to Obama and that ALL the facts on the ones published by Obama are EXACTLY the same as on the ones that they sent to him.

      For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

      (1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

      (2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

      (3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

      If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

      And, guess what, birthers have not even showed that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961----and very few 18-year-olds did have passports in those days. And yet they would like rational people to just assume that she had a passport and was one of the extremely few women to travel abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 due to the risk of stillbirth and that the BC of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying.

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    29. Not strange. That is how the software works. Who told you that PDF did not use layers? Who told you that a document scanned at a Xerox workstation and put into PDF would not show exactly the same kind of pixillation and layers?

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/08/the-importance-of-the-xerox-7655-identification/#comments

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/xerox-workflow/the-xerox-workcentre-workflow-successes/

      Also, no, it is not "kerning." It is the normal skipping that manual typewriters make when they are old.

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    30. That email was very long.

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    31. Re: "Barry Soetoro had his name changed back to Barack, JR..."

      Since Obama never had his name legally changed to Soetoro, it remains the same as on his birth certificate: Barack Hussein Obama II. Obama has shown both his short form and long form BC, and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him and that ALL the facts on the copies of the birth certificate that Obama had published are exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY the same, as on what they sent to him.

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    32. Mike D is EXACTLY right! Download a TRIAL of Adobe Illustrator and prove it to yourself as I did. If you go to your scanner right now and scan a document, open it in Illustrator it has ONE layer. All scan have ONE layer when you scan them. When you edit them then you add layers and you can see these added layers in the PDF. People like this commenter are just plain stupid I guess. All of this information is available to them and they just refuse to admit they are dead wrong. This guy is a fake and a fraud. CSI PROVEN beyond a shadow and yet we are allowing it.

      And then the question comes "Put him in jail for what?" Are you SERIOUS??? How stupid are you? Have you not seen the total decline of this country since Barry took office 5 years ago? Is it still Bush's fault? Pull your head out of his butt and get the FACTS! Quit standing on your ego, you are wrong, it happens to all of us at one point or another. Get this fraud and his disbarred wife out of our house!

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    33. Re: "How can you be so certain that this document, with all of the official seals, is the forged one and not the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth? "

      Because: (1) Only 21 people total came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 according to the INS report for that year, and all but one of them came by SEA (by ship), and there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961;

      (2) The Kenyan government has stated that Obama was not born in Kenya;

      (3) The Hawaii government has repeatedly confirmed that it sent the Hawaii short form and long form BC to Obama and that all the facts on the copies that Obama had published are EXACTLY the same as on the ones that they sent to him;

      (4) It uses US-format dates (month/day/year) and not the day/month/year used in Kenya, and some of the names on it are misspelled;

      (5) Lucas D. Smith, the man who put the "Kenyan BC" online claimed that he got it in Kenya, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to provide any evidence that he had ever been to Kenya---all that would require would be for him to scan his passport with the alleged Kenya stamp on it, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do this. I wonder why not?

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    34. People believe what they want, that the Hawaiian or the Kenyan birth certificate is fake. These are not in dispute: he was educated early in Muslin Indonesia...his father was in the Indonesian military...he had almost no political experience when he became president, and he has done a horrible job--citizen or not. He should have been impeached long ago. He could do more good for the whole world if he had the courage to utter 4 little words tonight: "I resign effective immediately" Please.

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    35. Why does Obama not allow the state to issue a certified copy of his very original "long form" certificate? Any doc that he releases must be verified like any other evidence produced during discovery. It is not sufficient for any one to say I saw it. Just saying.

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    36. The "Birth Certificate" at the White House site has been PROVEN to be a forgery. That was even admitted in court pleadings by the President's lawyers. His Selective Service Registration is ALSO a PROVEN forgery.

      I see nothing in your post that indicates analysis of this document for accuracy. Perhaps you should have a team investigate and vet this document as thoroughly as the Cold Case Posse in Arizona has of the fake documents offered by the White House.
      There also exists the lack of college records that have all been bound by President Obama, and the records of his Legal Career. There is strong circumstantial evidence that the reason for sealing the documents is that they indicate that he registered as a foreign student.

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    37. Re: "And another thing, this Kenyan birth was verified by eye witnesses, in particular his grandmother who was quit positive and unflappable in her international TV interview..."

      Obama's Kenyan grandmother never said any such thing. Birther sites made the story all up. In fact, she was interviewed in a tape recorded telephone call and she said repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii "where his father was studying at the time." But birther sites simply did not quote her, and cut off the tape recording on their sites at just before she was asked "Where was he born."

      BTW, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 and all but one of them by ship (and there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961), and the Kenyan government has said that Obama was NOT born in Kenya.

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    38. Re: "The "Birth Certificate" at the White House site has been PROVEN to be a forgery. "

      Answer: No it hasn't. Birther "experts" simply keep on CLAIMING that it is a forgery, but they are not real experts, and they certainly are not fair and impartial. And birther sites have not shown you all the REAL experts who say that Obama's BC is not forged, such as:

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

      Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said

      And birther sites have not told you that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the Hawaii BC to Obama and that ALL the facts on the copy that the White House has put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent him.

      And the fact that Obama was issued a birth certificate in Hawaii is also proved by the public Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

      And by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Re: "That was even admitted in court pleadings by the President's lawyers."

      Answer: Actually, no, that never happened. Obama's lawyer never said any such thing. The whole story was made up by a birther "reporter" and published on a birther site. Another birther lie--like the claim that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya, when she actually said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii.

      Re: "His Selective Service Registration is ALSO a PROVEN forgery."

      Answer: Yes it is. Unfortunately for the birther side, Obama did not publish his Selective Service Registration. A birther did, claiming to have gotten it from the Selective Service Administration back during the Bush Administration. So who had the opportunity and motive to forge Obama's Selective Service Registration? Duh, the birther who published it, of course.

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    39. Re: " Download a TRIAL of Adobe Illustrator and prove it to yourself as I did. If you go to your scanner right now and scan a document, open it in Illustrator it has ONE layer. All scan have ONE layer when you scan them. "

      Answer: "
      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      And:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/08/the-importance-of-the-xerox-7655-identification/

      And:

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/xerox-workflow/the-xerox-workcentre-workflow-successes/

      And:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/ame-o-ospit-or-nstitution-not-in-ospit/

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    40. Re: "Why does Obama not allow the state to issue a certified copy of his very original "long form" certificate? "

      Because, duh, states do not issue certified copies of their BCs to the public. They only issue them to the people involved, who have the right to show them as they desire. Hawaii state law only allows its BCs to be issued to people on a specific list, including the person involved and the family. The public is not on the list.

      However, Obama has shown his BC twice, and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them both to him and repeatedly confirmed that ALL the facts on t he BC that Obama has had put online are EXACTLY the same as on the one that they sent to him.

      Here are the birth notices of Obama's birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961.

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      (And as you can see the section of the paper is called "Health Bureau Statistics". Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)

      Here is the Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

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  4. No one will press the issue for fear of stirring up all the niggers.

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    1. Go wash your KKK white sheet and hood LOL

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    2. I dont agree with Mr. Obama's politics - however your choice of words is repulsive. Its people like you that bring crap to our side of the debate.

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    3. That was uncalled for, Jim. You have just lowered yourself to the level of liberals by name calling. And a despicable name, too.....

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    4. That was uncalled for, Jim. You have lowered yourself to the level of liberal name calling. And a despicable name, too.

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    5. Jim - what a racist idiot you are

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    6. That is a hateful word! The issue is not presses because there is nothing to press!

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    7. Careful with that "N" word axe you're swinging around, Guthrie....

      You might cut yourself with it!

      Wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself, you know....just looking out for you.

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    8. They are already stirred up full of TNB. Who cares if they chimpout or not? Nothing new

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    9. Jim, I respect that you will say out loud what so many birthers carefully will not, even if it does show you to be a racist imbecile.

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  5. should be simple to prove...Have Obama step on an ink pad and let's check his toe prints

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    1. Oh, definitely--the president should have to demean himself to prove something to lunatics who won't take it as proof anyway. Fool's errand much?

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  6. Whatever the truth in this affair, the President's reluctance to face his critics confronting them with irrefutable evidence fuelled the controversy. Whatever the truth, born in the USA or under British Rule, President Obama's Administration has proven to be a huge disappointment. As we clearly state in our writings, we don't blame one party for all that has been happening in America and because of America. There are shared responsibilities for the present chaotic situation.

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    1. There is no such thing as 'irrefutable evidence' in the minds of people who take nonsense on faith. Every new concession made to them just makes them hypothesize and mislead all the more. I'm surprised they even concede the president was born on earth--and some of them probably have their doubts on that.

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  7. While msrstrauss may be correct there is still the question of the birth certificate he provided as being a forged document as well as the accusations concerning the use of a social security card that was not originally issued to him. Most of the mystique over concerning Obama was created by the fact that he has had most of his records sealed thereby giving it the appearance he has something he wishes to conceal.

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    1. Re: "...there is still the question of the birth certificate he provided as being a forged document..."

      Answer: It isn't forged. Birthers simply keep claiming that it is forged. That is their method of attacking Obama, and they don't mind lying. One example of their intentionally misleading is the Social Security number. They simply did not tell you that millions upon millions of people have errors in their SS numbers caused by data entry errors by SS Administration clerks. You, like some other gullible people, seem to think that SS Administration clerks never made errors or that their errors would not result in SS numbers appearing to be issued in states other than the ones where the person applied for a SS number.

      Returning to the BC. What gave you the idea that birther sites, which lied about what Obama's Kenyan grandmother said (she NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. Birther sites simply quoted her has saying it, and ignored the fact that she said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii) would tell the truth about Obama's BC being forged? Of course they are lying---what gave you the nutty idea that they are telling the truth?

      Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

      One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

      Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

      And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

      Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

      Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

      John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

      Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

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  8. Yeah right! WTF? NOW you post this made up crap? Where in the world did you get this? Some friend that made it with photoshop? And NOW you think it's important?

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    1. Same place Obama got his Hawaii BC.

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    2. Re: "Same place Obama got his Hawaii BC."

      Obama got his Hawaii BC from the Department of Health of Hawaii, and officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and long form birth certificates to Obama and that all the facts on the copies that Obama had put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. And the fact that Obama received a birth certificate from Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

      And still further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the "Health Bureau Statistics" sections of the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961:

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php

      And, guess what, there isn't even evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 and very few 18-year-olds did. Yet birthers hope that gullible people will believe that Obama's mother was one of the very few 18-year-olds to have a passport, and that she was one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad late in pregnancy because of the risk of stillbirths in 1961 (and she could not have gone earlier in pregnancy because she was attending college for most of the year) and that the birth certificates are forged and the officials of BOTH parties and the Index Data and the birth notices are all lying.

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  9. You know it is time to find something new to do. The GOP shut down the Government and no one seems to care about that. I so tried of see how Obama is not American. His mother was and White America so that makes him Half White and Full America

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  10. You are all idiots. Can't you tell this is a forged document? The date on this paper is from 2001. Hello, he wasn't running for Prez back then. So why was this brought out after he was elected when the person was in possesion of this since 2001. You American are such idiots. Its no wonder why the world hates you all so much. You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground and everything is conspiracy to you.

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    1. Bryan,the world does not hate America and Americans are not Idiots it is one of the greatest Countries i know and love.I don't know where Obama was born and i don't care i just know he is bad for America..By the way where are you from?

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    2. Please don't generalize. It is mostly just the red states that have these issues. I will be the first to admit that Americans can be shitty, but it really all depends on Location.

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  11. As much as I would like to believe this, I have one question. If this is a real birth cert. wouldn't he still be an American citizen? I mean it shows mother born in U.S., living in HI. If born overseas and to at least one American citizen, then the child is still American citizen, correct? I still hate the fucker either way, but this is not going to help any. We need to impeach the fucker on all the atrocities he has committed against the American people. All the lies, all the hidden agendas, all the violations of the Constitution of the United States. And for lying about being the first black President. I mean we all know Clinton was the first black President. :-)

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    1. The facts are important, and the facts show overwhelmingly that the "Kenyan birth certificate" is forged, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii, which has been repeatedly confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii----and by the Index Data and by the birth notices----is accurate and that Obama was born in Hawaii, and not in Kenya.

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    2. Also notice that there are questions on this form, ex. "place of residence" for the mother but not for the father? There would be line for line information on both mother and father.

      Clearly not even a good forgery of a Kenyan birth certificate.

      Even HAD he been born in Kenya, he is still an American.

      As American as good old Ted Cruz who was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father.

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  12. he was a puny little niglet wasn't he?

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  13. puny little niglet wasn't he?

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    1. You are disgusting. All babies are small, what did you turn out to be?

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    2. all my kids were over 8.5 lbs if that's what you're asking. If you need more than that I am a responsible, hard-working, tax-paying, veteran of 2 wars, man who loves and protects his family, my country, and despises liars and those who would seek to destroy our country. You? .

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  14. Matters not , indictments were stopped by of all people Karl Rove , now Obama has rewarded Prosecutor Fitzgerald , Google it !

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  15. I hate the man and im one to never defend him but his birthday is August 4, 1961

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

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  16. it shouldn't matter his father was not a natural born Citizen when he was born which means he is not a natural born citizen.

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    1. WRONG

      The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that
      The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth", either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth". Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen.[1]

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    2. Moreover:


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      and:

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      and:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

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  17. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8479377/Barack-Obama-shows-birth-certificate-on-Oprah-Winfrey-Show.html This is for those who like to waste your own time producing drama for yourselves.

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    1. Because it was on Oprah it's true.

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    2. Re: "Because it was on Oprah it's true."

      No, but it is true because the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent it to him and that ALL the facts on it are exactly the same as on what they sent him.

      And it is also confirmed by:

      http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html

      And it is also confirmed by the sheer stupidity of thinking that Obama's mother, whom we do not know even had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did at that time) would be one of the very very few who did have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled late in pregnancy at that time due to the risk of stillbirths. Yet birthers would like gullible people to believe that both of those extremely rare things happened AND that the officials of both parties in Hawaii, and the Index Data and the birth notices are all lying.

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  18. I am so tired of this:

    You know what? I'm willing to take a second look at the inauguration "BOTCH" attempt made by the Chief Justice.

    You know the story, The Chief tried to make both Barack and Joe say the oath in a BOTCHED-UP way, rather than the proper way, so that they couldn't OFFICIALLY be president and vice-president at 12 noon January 20th 2009. And the story goes, later on that night, they had to do "retakes" to get it right!

    Now, with that story, planted in memory, as I watched it unfold on TV...I had to do some thinking....What were the justices thinking, when, apparently, they had to do this "Botch" attempt? What were they trying to preserve or protect?

    Let's say that there was no Botch attempt made, and this Birther Issue stuck, causing BHO to step down....

    Repubs wouldn't have gotten the chair one more time....it would have been Joe Biden! And Guess who he would have selected as his Veep? You guessed it! Hillary! And BOTH were running against Barack, in the Campaign!

    And wasn't the Birther push re-ignited and flared up for THIS campaign, by what was reported in the media as a low-level HILLARY supporter, David Berg, a DEMOCRAT? Uh huh...(Hillary's public disavowal notwithstanding...)

    And, so, let's play THAT Scenario out....Joe gets in, because Barack has to step down, and Hillary gets put in as the Veep.... (Continued)

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  19. (continued, from previous)

    Now, here's ANOTHER piece of that puzzle you might like to consider....

    Conservatives always use the term "Liberal" when they really want to say "Communist" or "socialist" with the allusion to CHINESE and RUSSIAN (SOVIET) influences....(you can guess why!)

    So that makes me want to look in the history books, and look at how #2's in Soviet Russia ascended to the #1 spot, in order to wonder HOW things could play out, here!

    Hmmm...Lenin "caught a cold" and died.
    Stalin, reportedly, "got food poisoning" and died,
    Kruschev got locked into his Dachau, and reportedly died.
    Brezhnev "caught a cold" and died.
    Andropov "caught a cold" and died.
    Chernenko "caught a cold" and died...
    and Gorbachev was the last Soviet leader before the Soviet Union dissolved into the Commonwealth of Independent States,
    and Yeltsin was too drunk to "get a cold" to die,
    and Putin....well...the group "Pussy Riot" only wishes he could "get a cold," but, he's too damn healthy, and he won't drink any "Oddka Vodka" to die,
    and after two elections, and his buddy Medvedev holding the helm for him, until the next election....
    Pussy Riot has better odds on winning the Powerball, than Putin croaking anytime soon.... (that is, if Pussy Riot can ever get out of the Moscow slammer, to come to the States to buy lottery tickets! Who can say?)

    But looking over here: Truman succeeded FDR who "cerebral Hemmoraged" while at Warm Springs GA! (The Peach that FDR was with, was too much for him!)

    Andrew Johnson, a DEMOCRAT, succeeded Lincoln (wonder if after all was said and done, would anyone ever find out what role AJ might have had in the whole BOOTH affair? Probably no one would ever dare to go look at that, would they?)

    And of course, Lyndon Johnson succeeded JFK....(You can go into all that later)

    So....with all the instances of #2's succeeding their bosses.....what would be the simplest way for a #2 to make a clean succession into the #1 spot?

    You know, other than planting "He's not LEGIT" whispers all over town?

    Plant a cold on who would succeed HIM if they ascended, bringing you up to their spot?

    And that's EXACTLY what I bet the Cheif and the Associate justices might have thought, when they botch-attempted BOTH MEN from OFFICIALLY ascending that Noon.

    They did that botch attempt to protect BOTH Barack AND JOE, from Hillary LEAPFROGGING them, into the Presidency....

    Because who would Hillary have picked as HER Veep, if it was ever found out that she might have done this, and she succeeded, and would now the President this way...

    YEP! You guessed it! CO-PRESIDENCY! Bill comes back!

    Now, of course, all of this is pure speculation, on my part! But, come on! Put two and two together....

    Why is it that the TEA PARTIES and the Conservatives are banging this drum?

    Why did they decide to take this ball and run with it?

    If they succeeded...then Joe gets in....Or, Joe pulls a Spiro T. Agnew, and Obama selects one seen as a Gerald Ford...and THEN Obama pulls a Nixon and goes home (but to WHERE?)...and now we have another Gerald Ford in the White House!

    Contrary to popular belief about Carter....Ford was more honest than HIM!

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  20. there seems to be a plethora of forged documents for this man. The 'proof from Hawaii' has struck its own significant hurdles. Then there are the sealed college records. All this cloak and dagger stuff cannot be for no reason. Use common sense.

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    1. Obama's BC is not forged. Only birther "experts" say so, and birther sites have lied and lied repeatedly in the past. What gave you the nutty idea that you should believe birther sites. The claim that Obama's college records are "sealed" is another birther lie. Obama's college records, like everyone's school and college records, are protected by the normal state and federal privacy laws, and that is all. That is ALL. And guess what, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan did not show their college records, and McCain certainly didn't.

      There is no "cloak and dagger stuff." Obama does not have to show his college records, and since Romney and McCain did not do so, and since he graduated from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude, why should he?

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  21. Give me a break this is his Birth Certificate, and its been proven over and over that the other one was fake, by many using photo shop.

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    1. So if it was proven then why is he in office? hmm who proved it? Get over it, even McCain has

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  22. The real issue that can be proven is his father is not American which mean's he should not have been alouded to run in the first place, you have to be natural born, which means Mother and Father born in America also. They have been hiding this fact. It will all come out after he's gone and charges will follow. They don't want to do anything so not to start a race riot and thats the bottom line. If the blacks only knew he is only 7% Negro, 43% Arabic and 50% White.

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    1. Then when Ted Cruz runs for President, you will be just as vocal about him not being qualified to be President, correct?

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    2. That is a birther's nutty idea of the US Constitution. It does not say that two citizen parents are required, and neither did any ruling of the US Supreme Court (the Minor v. Happersett ruling DID NOT say any such thing).

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      "Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

      “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).


      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      More reading on the subject:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

      http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution

      http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

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    3. He was born in the states so it doesn't matter where his father was born. He is natural born. Even the republicans have left this one alone and you sound like Michele Bachmann who got owned when she tried to say something about it to another republican. it just happens that the republican was McCain. Don't you think he would have wanted to have Obama put out, but not for something that isn't true. He has integrity and honesty at least. Natural born doesn't mean that parents have to be born in the United States. The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that
      The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth", either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth". Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen.[1]

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  23. It won't make a bit of difference. Nothing will stop this train from completing it's mission. The American people elected this uninformed, never had a job, can't find where he was born, no college transcript, hung out with terrorists, went to church with a blatant racist.. you get the picture. You just can't stop a ghost.

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    1. Obama graduated from Harvard Law School MAGNA CUM LAUDE, and he worked for Baskin Robbins and Business International (and Business International has become part of the Economist's Information Group). And, BTW, we simply decided that Obama/Biden would be better than McCain/Palin and then better than Romney/Ryan. If the Republicans had picked better presidential/vice presidential candidates in 2008 and 2012 it might have gone the other way.

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  24. HEY EVERONE!

    Want proof? Do it yourself. Not joking about it either. I did it in about 5 minutes. Go to whitehouse.gov, run a search in the on-site search engine for Obama's Birth Certificate

    You're looking for the "long-form birth certificate".... open it in Adobe Illustrator (yes I know it's a .PDF). Don't have Illustrator? Download a trial.

    Once it's open go to the menu on top, go to Window / Layers and open the Layers panel. Once that's open, see the tiny arrow? Click it to expand the layers.

    Wait a second. WHY are there layers? Groups even? You'll get your answers when you find the background layer and turn it off. All you have left is EVERYTHING that was edited. Which is EVERYTHING.

    It is SOMEONE ELSE'S birth certificate that was scanned and then EDITED to look authentic. Anyone who does graphic design knows that if you don't FLATTEN the image, these layers STAY. Had the file been exported as a JPEG (regular picture file) it would have saved them the trouble.

    Furthermore, if you notice the ink strokes, before you turn off any layers, zoom in... they get blocky. Ink does not get blocky before the rest of the image does... that "pixelation" is a sign of not turning on certain rendering features such as anti-alias.

    Yep... have fun.

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    1. Nathan Goulding with The National Review: “We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”


      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/08/the-importance-of-the-xerox-7655-identification/

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/xerox-workflow/the-xerox-workcentre-workflow-successes/

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  25. I wonder if the person who wrote this knows his birth name was Barry......

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  26. I think everyone needs to do research into this affair and not just go by what the government says and what the news says and what all of these ".com or .org" websites say. I myself have not yet researched it, so I have no view on this matter except that people need to quit jumping to conclusions and automatically assuming that they are right without the proper background knowledge. Like zombies, people. I swear you will believe whatever supports your argument and shut the door on anything else.

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    1. Re: "I think everyone needs to do research into this affair..."

      Answer: Okay.

      Here's where to start:

      For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

      (1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

      (2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

      (3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

      And, by the way, there isn't even evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961----and in those days very very few 18-year-olds did have passports. Yet birthers would like gullible people to assume that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad late in pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirth, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged, and the officials who have repeatedly confirmed that they sent it to him are lying, and so, they claim, is the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.

      And, guess what, the birthers to claim all these incredible things happened, just happen to have LIED repeatedly in the past. For example, they lied blatantly when they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Kenya. (She said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii "where his father was studying at the time," but birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recording just before she was asked "where was he born?")

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  27. Even the republicans have put this one to rest. I am sorry to say, but it is getting old. He got elected twice deal with it. Maybe after the first time something might have happened if any of this bullshit had any merit, but the truth is that no one wants to argue on the merits and politics. I hear so many things that just aren't true from people who have no idea what they are talking about. Say you don't like his politics, but he is in office and not going anywhere no matter how many internet sites have pictures some document.

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  28. The problem is NOT where he was born. The problem is where he lives.

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  29. If this is a "transparent" administration I would hate to see one that is locked down. This has been the least transparent administration and president in American history! Don't any of you ask why? What are they hiding? What is HE hiding? Why does he have all his records sealed?

    I gotta hand it to him, this has been one of his best distractions to keep us from seeing the secret orders going through and the massive military movement toward FEMA Region III and Puerto Rico plus his drive to try to get the 22nd amendment changed. Yeah, that is the amendment that would allow him to take a third term.

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  30. not that it will change anyone's mind, but here is a thorough examination of the Kenyan birth certificates.
    http://www.calldrmatt.com/Myth_Busting_106-Barack_Obama_Birth_Kenya_Hawaii.htm

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  31. born in Kenya hence not a us citizen duh therefore it was illegal for him to run for president and is illegal for him to be in office

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    1. The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

      Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof. (Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

      Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

      And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

      “Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

      “It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

      http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …

      Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

      Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

      Oh, and there is this:

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …

      Oh, and by the way, birther sites have not even told their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961. Nor did they tell their readers how few 18-year-olds did have passports in 1961. Nor did they tell their readers how EXTREMELY FEW women traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy because of the risk of stillbirths in 1961. Yet they want gullible people to assume that Obama's mother was one of the very few 18-year-olds to have a passport, and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad late in pregnancy and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii (and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961, and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, and in 1961 it only did so for children born in Hawaii) are all lying.


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  32. OK people I see all kinds of opinions but the fact is If Im given birth to by 2 American citizens whether it be Mexico...the south pole or santas workshop Im still a natural born citizen of the United states...no one questioned this when he was a Illinois senator!!! Which is he had to have been totally thourouly checked out to be. And the other is NO other president has EVER been required to show a birth certificate NEVER EVER!!! Quit the consoiracy theories it just makes ya look that much more stupid...and no I didn't vote for Obama!!! I cast my vote for the best candidate I could find I penciled in The Incredible Hulk...

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  33. OK people I see all kinds of opinions but the fact is If Im given birth to by 2 American citizens whether it be Mexico...the south pole or santas workshop Im still a natural born citizen of the United states...no one questioned this when he was a Illinois senator!!! Which is he had to have been totally thourouly checked out to be. And the other is NO other president has EVER been required to show a birth certificate NEVER EVER!!! Quit the consoiracy theories it just makes ya look that much more stupid...and no I didn't vote for Obama!!! I cast my vote for the best candidate I could find I penciled in The Incredible Hulk...

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  34. The document posted here is obviously not a real birth certificate (or an other official document) issued in British ruled Kenya in 1961. Look at the date of birth listed for Obama's mother, 11/29/42. That's the US format for November 29; it would never appear that way on a British document, it would be 29/11/49. Similarly the date of Obama's birth is given as 4th Day of August 1961. Yet the date of signature by the issuing official (the last one on the document) is 8/7/1961. If that was written in the UK format it would have been issued on the eighth of July; almost a month before the birth!

    I'm not sure that something so obviously false could even be called a forgery.

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  35. He's a fraud and everyone that's not in denial knows it. Experts have verified that the document put forth by the White House as a birth certificate is a poorly assembled Adobe fraud. All you liberal zombie geniuses might be given one iota of credence if you could explain why all his background is sealed to the tune of MILLIONS. I really wish the author of this blog would explain where this document was found or how he obtained it

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    1. No the "experts" are simply other birther zealots who try to mislead people by claiming that pdf does not use layers (it does). Obama's background, BTW, is not "sealed." It is covered under the normal state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain did not release similar information, so Obama does not have to do so.

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/ame-o-ospit-or-nstitution-not-in-ospit/

      http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/08/the-importance-of-the-xerox-7655-identification/

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/xerox-workflow/the-xerox-workcentre-workflow-successes/

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  36. I can't believe people as obviously intelligent as most of you seem by your comments, have not realized that the ENTIRE Democrat/Republican paradigm is a manufactured illusion for the purpose of keeping our citizens at each other's throats. By the comments it has been working well. Demand at accept nothing less than a NO party system. Individuals are much harder to co opt. Limit donations and demand TOTAL transparency. That is the only way our Republic will continue.

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  37. Alas this is obviously a fake to pretty much anyone outside of the USA or Japan, There is no 29th month of the year if it was legit his mothers birthday would be 29/11/42 and the supervisor who signed 8/7/61 would mean he observed the birth almost a month ahead of time.
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  38. Was English the official language of Kenya in 1961 or is this perhaps made with a handy dandy computer program?

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    1. English was the official language because in 1961 Kenya was still a colony.

      Nevertheless, the "Kenya birth certificate" was forged. In fact, the guy who put it online is a convicted felon, and he claimed to have gotten it in Mombasa Kenya, but has refused to show that he even went to Kenya, and the government of Kenya said that the "born in Kenya" story is FALSE, and it use the USA date format (month/day/year) and not the day/month/year used in Kenya.

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  39. It's a hoax. It's not real. It's forged. Yes, these are all the same things that were said about his Hawaiian birth certificate. Why so quick to believe this one without any proof of authenticity but not the other one? Could it be your actions are politically motivated and have NOTHING AT ALL to do with whether or not he was really born in this country?

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    1. To clarify what Benjamin Brennan said, the "Kenyan birth certificate" is certainly forged. The Hawaii birth certificate is certainly real, although there are birthers who continually repeat claims of "experts" that it is forged. Those are simply the claims of other people who hate Obama. The evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.

      The birther “experts”—who have not proven that they are really experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial—have claimed that there is something wrong with Obama’s birth certificate. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, the National Review and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona do not believe them, and it is why Rush Limbaugh and Fox news will not even discuss it. Why not? Because they would simply be discussing allegations made by a group of people who hate Obama.

      Obama has published images of the birth certificates and shown the physical copies (with the seal on the back, which one reporter stated that she had felt) to the press. The officials in Hawaii OF BOTH PARTIES have repeatedly confirmed that they sent both the short-form birth certificate and the long form birth certificate to Obama and that all the facts on the copies that Obama has had put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him. This is in turn further confirmed by the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (for images of the Index Data and the birth notices, see citations above).

      Before the election last year the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate, and Hawaii did so, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii.

      Obama’s mother lived in Hawaii. Obama’s father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961—and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the “born in Kenya” claim and found that it was false. And there is not even evidence that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet birthers apparently think that they can trick gullible people into thinking that there could be a realistic chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii, and the Index Data, and the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961—-are all lying about that fact.

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  40. Oh, and by the way...always check snopes first:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

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  41. I believe what I heard from Moochele herself which is on youtube. She states "Barack has led by example when we took our trip to Africa and visited HIS HOME COUNTRY OF KENYA" Until one of his followers can prove to me that the woman in the video is not their beloved First Lady then this is what I rely on as to where he was born.

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    1. The term "home country" refers to the place where your ancestors came from. Michelle was not saying that Obama was born in Kenya (where only 21 people came to the USA from in 1961---want to see the INS report?). And she was not saying that she believed that Obama was born in Kenya either, and in fact, the "born in Kenya" story is totally loony, and the Kenyan government says that it is not true.

      Only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 according to the Immigration and Naturalization Service report for that year, and the same report shows that of the 21 all but one came by ship---and there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.

      And Obama has a birth certificate from Hawaii, confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, confirmed by the Index Data file, confirmed by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.

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    2. Re: ".Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Huckabee, and Michelle Bachmann are not only Conservative Republicans, but they ARE members of the so-called "birther movement"!

      Answer: Baloney they are. Each of them has stated that they do not believe birthers, and Michelle Bachmann voted to confirm Obama's election as president TWICE.

      Re: "
      The original photo-image of the alleged newspaper article from your provided URL is not only conveniently cut off on its right-hand margin when I opened it in a separate tab in my browser, but the Newspaper's location heading is also conveniently cut off in the image when I opened it in a separate tab; "

      And now you are claiming that the birth notices in the MICROFILM FILES of two separate libraries are forged because the images of the copies of them on the Web are not perfect. Well, the fact is that the citation of the birth notices are on the dates specified, and so you---or anyone--can go to those files and file the original microfilms to check. And, duh, the Microfilm notices are merely in confirmation of the birth certificate of Hawaii, and the repeated confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii and the Index Data.

      In contrast, the birther sites lied repeatedly. They claimed that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. But the tape recording (which they cut off on their sites) shows that she said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII. Why should we believe sites that lied instead of the official birth certificate of Hawaii, confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties, confirmed by the Index Data, confirmed by the birth notices in the newspapers, confirmed by the Hawaii teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after hearing of the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named STANLEY.

      RE: "U.S. newspapers commonly charge per letter for their announcements in the classified-columns indicating that Obama II's Mother didn't have enough money to show that his birth took place in Kenya [his Father's birthplace]. "

      Answer: Truly dumb. The birth notices in the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers could only be sent to the papers by, duh, the Health Bureau, which is how the DOH of Hawaii was called at the time, and the newspapers and the DOH of Hawaii have confirmed that fact, and the DOH has said that in 1961 it only sent birth notices to the papers for children BORN IN HAWAII.

      Re: "BTW, newspapers aren't a legal document, and hence they can't be notarized, which means they can't be used as material-evidence in a U.S. Court..."

      They can be used as evidence and are used as evidence very frequently, and in this case they are confirming evidence that Hawaii issued a birth certificate (which is also confirmed repeatedly by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii).

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      Re "the image above...direct from London..."

      Answer: The so called "Kenya birth certificate" on this site was allegedly found at the hospital in Mombasa Kenya by Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, who claims that he got it in Kenya but has refused to show that he even went to Kenya. All that it would take would be for him to show his passport with a Kenya stamp on it, but he has refused to do so. And the Kenyan government has stated that it investigated whether or not Obama was born there---and that OBAMA WAS NOT BORN THERE.

      There is nothing on the British files of its Kenyan colony that shows that Obama was born in Kenya. Nothing. There have been birther sites that claim that unknown people went to the British National Archives and found records indicating that Obama was born in Kenya. But, if such people had found records, they would have showed them---and they didn't, and no one has gone to the British files since then and found anything that indicated that Obama was born in Kenya.

      And, to repeat, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and all but one of them came by SHIP (and the one who came by air, was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen)----and there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.

      And guess what, there isn't even evidence that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did, and yet birther sites have convinced a few gullible people that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport, and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled late in pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirth---and that she traveled ALONE (since WND proved that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961 with a FOI Act request) by ship to Kenya and returned alone by ship from Kenya---and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and the officials of both parties in Hawaii who have confirmed it are lying, and so is the public index data, and so are the birth notice microfilm files, and so is the teacher who says she wrote home about the birth of a child to a woman named Stanley.



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    4. Nearly two years have passed since this was posted, and not one single member of Congress has called form an investigation of Obama's place of birth. One reason, duh, is that the "Kenyan birth certificate" that is posted on this page is a forgery, and in fact was done by a convicted forger who claims to have gotten the document in Kenya----but has refused to show that he ever went to Kenya (all that it would take to do that would be to scan a page on a passport with a Kenya stamp on it, but this guy refuses to do even that---now, I wonder why?).

      Here is complete Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) report for the year that included August 1961:

      http://archive.org/stream/annu...

      (Scroll down to page 74, about two-thirds of the way down in the book, and you will find the Kenya arrivals listing—there were only 21 arrivals.)

      On page 77, the same report shows the number of people who WENT to Kenya in fiscal 1961, and that shows that only 63 did (of whom 60 were Americans), and that of the 63 not a single person, not one, went by air. They ALL went by ship.

      So, according to birther theory, Obama’s mother, in the last two months of pregnancy at the age of 18, was among the 60 Americans who went to Kenya by sea in fiscal 1961 and one of the seven Americans who came to the USA from Kenya in fiscal 1961, and again she traveled by sea (since no Americans came to the USA from Kenya by air).

      And, BTW, the Kenyan government said that it investigated and that Obama was not born in Kenya. And birther sites lied when they said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. In fact, she said that he was born IN HAWAII in three interviews, of which birther sites showed their readers only part of one (now, I wonder why they didn't show the other two?), and in that one they carefully cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born and replied: "In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Now, I wonder why a birther sites would cut off the tape recording just before she said that? (I wonder.)

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